What Most Leaders Get Wrong About Transformation

Dr. Ekanjali Dhillon  | S2 E8 of the Badass Leaders Podcast

What does leadership actually look like when the stakes are real and failure isn’t an option?

In this episode of the Badass Leaders Podcast, physician and digital transformation leader Dr. Ekanjali Dhillon pulls back the curtain on what it really takes to deliver large-scale change inside complex healthcare systems. Drawing on her experience helping lead one of the UK’s largest electronic health record (EHR) deployments, she shares the hard-earned lessons most transformation playbooks miss.

This conversation goes beyond theory into the messy reality of modern leadership: competing priorities, fragile alignment, resistance from intelligent stakeholders, and the emotional load of making high-consequence decisions under pressure.

You’ll hear why big transformations rarely fail for the reasons leaders think, how to build trust when you don’t have formal authority, and what separates leaders who look good on paper from those who actually deliver results at scale.

Learn More About Ekanjali Dhillon:

https://www.linkedin.com/in/ekanjali/

Mentioned this episode:

• HCA Healthcare UK: https://www.hcahealthcare.co.uk/ 
• London North West University Healthcare NHS Trust: https://www.lnwh.nhs.uk/ 
• NH: https://www.nhs.uk/
• Hamlet by William Shakespeare (“To thine own self be true”): https://nosweatshakespeare.com/quotes/famous/to-thine-own-self-be-true/

The discussion also tackles questions like:

• What actually breaks first in large-scale transformations?
• How do you lead when failure isn’t an option?
• How can you influence teams when you don’t have positional authority?
• Why do leaders confuse buy-in with true alignment?
• How do you handle resistance during major organizational change?
• What leadership skills matter most in high-pressure environments?
• How do you build trust with highly intelligent, skeptical stakeholders?
• When is tension in a transformation healthy vs. dangerous?
• How can emerging leaders step up without waiting for permission?
• What do the best leaders do differently when stakes are high?

Themes:

• Leading transformation at scale
• Digital health and EHR implementation reality
• Leading without positional power
• Communication as the failure point in change programs
• Building trust in complex organizations
• Stakeholder alignment vs. surface-level buy-in
• Operating under sustained pressure
• Translating between technical, clinical, and operational worlds
• Continuous learning as a leadership discipline
• Turning resistance into forward momentum

Production

Produced by: The AGN Group

Host: Angela Gill Nelms

Producer: Katie Hart

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